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Live coverage: Toronto council vote over the future of the TTC
Wednesday morning, Toronto councillors will met to vote over the future of Toronto's transit strategy. Over the past month, Toronto Transit Commission chair Karen Stintz has led a council insurrection to toss out Mayor Rob Ford's underground transit strategy, in favour of replacing it with a reanimated version of the Transit City plan.
- Transit day at city hall bit.ly #TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 2:32:53 PM
- Is this meeting being video live-streamed? Can't find the link at the City website or at Rogers.
- From Marcus Gee: Political drama doesn't get any better than this: a head-to-head fight on the council floor over transit's future, outcome in the balance.
- Cllr Karen Stintz has letter to councillor with 6 recommendations#TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 2:40:12 PM
- The meeting was scheduled for 9:30 a.m., but we're still waiting for it to begin.
- Rec include Finch LRT from Spadina to Humber College #TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 2:41:16 PM
- Eglinton Crosstown LRT from Jane to Kennedy station#TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 2:41:58 PM
- Scarb RT conversion to LRT with extension to Malvern Town Centre#TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 2:43:00 PM
- City manager request expert panel to look at Sheppard Av to report back to special meeting no later than Feb 21#TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 2:44:44 PM
- David Crombie, Eric Miller from UofT city centre and Gordon Chong#TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 2:45:42 PM
- Various councillors are rising to present petitions calling for light-rail transit. Including Stintz. #TOcouncilby Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 2:47:26 PM
- Stintz compromise proposal suggests light-rail network but omits Sheppard line, leaving Mayor Ford's Sheppard subway option open. #TOcouncilby Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 2:49:19 PM
- Note to readers: this live blog will be focusing on coverage of the meeting. Thanks, everyone, for following along. We won't be able to take all of your questions, but we will try to provide clarification when needed.
- Stintz's proposal includes an advisory panel with David Crombie and Gordon Chong on it. #TOcouncilby Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 2:55:44 PM
- For those following along, this is the official meeting agenda: app.toronto.ca
- It would appear that Ford and Stintz have struck some kind of deal. Its shape should unfold the morning. But will it pass council? #TOpoliby Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 3:01:20 PM
- RT @aradwanski: If you've not seen it, here's my (web-only) column on how the province might respond to City Hall's civil war over TTC. ...by nut_graf via twitter 2/8/2012 3:04:35 PM
- There's a lot of provincial money in the TTC development. What will Premier Dalton McGuinty do? Columnist Adam Radwanski looks at the options: www.theglobeandmail.com
- @DenzilMW does the same. Separated at birth? @jm_mcgrath: Gary Webster starts all of his answers with the word "so".”by nut_graf via twitter 2/8/2012 3:07:42 PM
- This is the news story we'll be updating today: www.theglobeandmail.com
- Gotta say it's weird in the extreme to have an $8b transit decision come down to this council floor bartering. #TOcouncilby Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 3:15:41 PM
- Speaker Nunziata threatens for the second time to clear the chamber if the rucus continues. #TOcouncilby Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 3:20:52 PM
- As councillors bicker over LRT construction, read @JohnLorinc on why the St. Clair line hasn't been a such disaster. www.theglobeandmail.comby nut_graf via twitter 2/8/2012 3:23:39 PM
- TTC's Gary Webster refers to transit project 'scope creep.' #TOcouncilby Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 3:24:08 PM
- These are the recommendations TTC chair Karen Stintz will be pushing for today: www.toronto.ca
- RT @torontoist: To summarize: the coalition plan is for LRT on Eglinton, Finch, and as replacement of Scarborough RT; and for study of o ...by Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 3:32:20 PM
- Cllr Adam Vaughan asks city's CFO about findings of KMPG report on Sheppard subway plan and possible tax hikes required. #TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 3:32:59 PM
- Cllr Vaughan notes "every penny" of new development charges for 30 yrs needed to build Sheppard subway extension. #TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 3:34:56 PM
- Cllr Adam Vaughan says you would have to build 450 new condos to even start to pay for suburban subways with development charges. #Tocouncilby Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 3:37:11 PM
- RT @Spacing: We need $9 Billion for quorum RT @JProskowGlobal: $8.4 billion in transit spending on the floor. Only 24 city councillors i ...by Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 3:37:42 PM
- RT @ThomsonTO: Every penny of New Development charges must go to transit. No $ for Finch for 20yrs Cncllr Vaughn #tocouncil #torontoby Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 3:38:28 PM
- TTC GM asks council that whatever they do today, they leave technical issues to staff #TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 3:44:56 PM
- Elizabeth Church has a good summary of what's happened so far today: www.theglobeandmail.com
- TTC's Gary Webster says subway more expensive to maintain than LRT. Directly contradicts what Cllr Norm Kelly has been spinning for weeks.by nut_graf via twitter 2/8/2012 3:47:51 PM
- Web editors Ann Hui and Tom Philip will be moderating the live blog now. Thanks, all, for following our coverage this morning.
- Hi everyone. I'm an online editor at globeandmail.com. I'll be taking over from here.
- Just a reminder that, while we appreciate your comments, our focus today is on live coverage and may not be able to get to everyone's questions. We'll do our best, though.
- TTC GM comes out firmly behind LRT plan in questioning "Better value for money," he says #TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 3:52:42 PM
- TTC's gen manager says Stintz LRT plan is 'better value for money' than Ford-Metrolinx plan. Zing, Mr Mayor. #TOcouncilby Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 3:52:48 PM
- TTC GM says "sunk costs" of cancelling Transit City is $48-$65-million, but city yet to be billed #TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 3:55:01 PM
- RT @lizchurchto: TTC GM says "sunk costs" of cancelling Transit City is $48-$65-million, but city yet to be billed #TOcouncilby Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 3:55:14 PM
- From Liz Church's latest file, Stintz's proposal calls for the creation of an 'expert panel' on transit, as well as the following:
-Council affirm support for a light rail plan and the early implementation of three projects - an LRT on Finch from the Spadina subway extension to Humber College, the Eglinton Crosstown LRT from Jane Street to Kennedy Station, and conversion of the Scarborough RT to and LRT with an extension to Malvern Town Centre as funds become available.
-Continued discussions between Metrolinx and the TTC on the operation and delivery of light rail projects;
-Authorize the TTC to enter discussions with Metrolinx to study the future of five other transit projects;
- An extension of the Sheppard subway west to Downsview station;
- An extension of Sheppard LRT to to the Toronto Zoo;
-An extension of the Bloor Danforth subway line east to Scarborough Town Centre
-An extension of the Eglinton Crosstown from Jane to the airport
-The construction of the downtown relief line. - Okay, it's nearly 11 and we still have no real idea what is going to go down at city council. High drama indeed. #TOCouncilby Marcus Gee via twitter 2/8/2012 3:57:52 PM
- Councillor Augimeri: "Is the subway they want to build now...the same one I voted on in the 1980s?"
- Cllr John Parker asks about impact of Sheppard subway plan on dev charges. CFO confirms charges would be citywide#TOcouncilby lizchurchto via twitter 2/8/2012 4:01:25 PM
